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Davidian
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 2:09 pm    Post subject: Brake Pedal question. Reply with quote

Just a quick one before i look into this further. But it seems that my brake pedal is fairly easy to push in all the way. I cant remeber if this has happened since ive had the car, but ive only noticed it in the past few weeks. Braking ability does not seem to be affected, and it's not drinking fluid as far as i can see.

Any suggestions to what it might be? Or is it a normal thing? Or something i shouldnt worry about?

Cheers guys.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 2:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I assume the electric brake boosted is still working? and that if you pump the pedal hard a few times, it will kick in?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

is this at start up or after a few minutes after? I can hit the bottom till the nitrogen pressure has built up which should be 10 or so seconds after start up.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 2:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yup and yup, brake booster is working as per normal.

It's not just a start up thing, happens all the time.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

weird, so when the nitrogen is being pumped is it quiet or loud? Probley no nitrogen left or the motor or a valve is gone. When i had to replace mine it still didnt hit the floor just and it was pretty rooted.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah im tipping that the nitrogen level is a bit low. From looking at other threads i can go to an air con place or bike workshop to get it recharged?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeh apparently havent heard anyone doing it thou, aristoman told me a bike shop would do it so try there and tell us how much it cost if you do it wouldnt think it would be expensive. I got a spare booster if the one i have shits its self to try it but havent yet.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it's still alright to drive the car though? i mean braking ability hasnt been compromised.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah mate its fine... give it a good flogging on twisty roads.. particularly ones with nice big cliff faces on the other side of the guard rail... lots of sudden braking... the later the better.....

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

black humour just doesn't suit you Daz Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

so i guess when you put to the floor your standing still? Coz it would lock up wouldnt it? There would be no way to put it to the floor without doing it moving. Air pocket maybe?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah i only put my foot to the floor when idling, the braking is like normal so i dont need to put it to the floor whilst moving but it would definately lock up/activate the ABS if i did.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 9:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Mate.

The nitrogen side of things only helps with assistance, so low nitrogen generally only results in teh pump running longer, and if you had almost none then you would have reduced assistance (difficult to press pedal - hard brakes).

The Aristo master cylinder certainly is a lot more spongy than other cars I reckon, usually you could pump the brakes up nice and firm with a couple of presses in any other car, but in Aristo's you can generally always seem to get the pedal to go all the way.

Anyhoo spongy pedal is usually air in the lines, a flush & bleed usually helps. There is a link on this site to a 'how-to' on a Soarer site that explains how to bleed the system.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 9:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah cheers for that mate. Like i said ive only noticed it in the past few weeks, this doesnt mean that it hasnt been like that since ive had the car, it may have always been like this.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 9:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cool. so spongey is normal Eeek Dance
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

According this site and soarer central, yes.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 10:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Davidian wrote:
According this site and soarer central, yes.

saves me bleeding the brakes and master cylinder then thinking. My master cylinder is screwed
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agreed
when i had to replace my master cylinder my brakes were really spongy so i bled the system and that fixed the problem!! Smile
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