Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 12:17 pm Post subject: New Noise Laws Passed in NSW
I was thinking about a thread I was reading on another Forum recently discussing being pulled over and having the Police photographing the car and engine bay. It was a lively discussion.
Yesterday, on the way home, it became a little more 'real' to me when I noticed the Highway Patrol (two big guys both in leather jackets) had pulled a young bloke over (Honda Civic, not really low, but black alloys and probably an exhaust, no P plates to be seen), and were pointing to his engine bay and taking photographs.
With the new Noise Laws successfully passing through the NSW Parliament last week this will be a regular sight on our roads as the authorities use the new laws to 'rid the streets of illegally modified cars'. No one will be safe - as we all know you don't have to committ a crime/felony, or break traction, or make a loud noise - to be pulled over. It's all based on suspicion.
Here's one report from the media, but many outlets carried the same story, even Triple J (which is what alerted me to it as I was working in the garage):
New NSW noise laws tough on music, alarms
Posted Sat Mar 1, 2008 10:06am AEDT
New neighbourhood laws that aim to crack down on noisy cars and loud music come into effect across New South Wales today.
From today, music that can be heard by neighbours will have to be turned off at 10:00pm from Sunday through to Thursday, instead of midnight.
There will also be a ban on temporary noise reduction devices in car exhausts, that drivers use to avoid the attention of police.
The State Government says the changes to car noise regulations will make it easier for police to crack down on illegally modified vehicles.
My comment: What constitutes an "illegally modified car"? You know it's legal to sell all this gear, just illegal to use it on a public road. I wonder if the manufacturers/retailers will all place warnings on their products like they do in the US. I doubt it.
The new rules are also tough on house and car alarms. Fines have been introduced for house and car alarms that are not shut off quickly.
State Environment Minister Verity Firth says the rules are not meant to be a kill-joy.
"It's not that you can't enjoy music in your home - in fact, you could listen to music all night in your home - just after 10:00pm we don't want that music to be able to be heard by your neighbour," she said.
"So you just have to turn it down. We just don't want it pumping, the 'doof doof' noise literally reverberating into the neighbours next door."
My comment: Interesting that they immediately isolate one sector of the home music people as those who listen to 'doof doof' music. That immediately narrows it down doesn't it? So you can't play classical music loud? What about Prog Rock like Led Zeppelin? I've got a neighbour who has his bedside radio on all night, with the window open across the road. You can hear it on any night - can I report him?
Ms Firth says the laws are to help neighbours co-exist more peacefully.
"We would always prefer for people to be able to sort this out amongst themselves, we would always prefer for you to go over and have a cup of tea, and sort it out rather than bringing in the police or council rangers," she said.
"But what we do also know is that there are times when simply this communication amongst neighbours breaks down."
Forums will be full of stories similar to the one I first mentioned within a couple of months, and the Police will be even more relentless than they are now. Pod filter sales and those mufflers that have the remote controlled noise gates will be restricted to racing only. Maybe there'll be a 'black market' in pod filters! Psssst, buddy wanna buy a pod filter (pointing to thick overcoat).
The point I was trying to impress upon everyone is that you don't have to have a "loud" exhaust to get the attention of The Man. You only have to have a non-standard exhaust, and these are easy to pick. Just look at the back of some of the Aristos on this Forum with the BIG cannons, and others because they are stainless/polished and have a nice subtle tip. This is one of many new reasons why you will get pulled over and have your pride'n'joy snapped. Maybe they have a big wall down at the Station, you now, like in Law and Order, and they draw lines connecting various victims to exhaust shops and aftermarket tuning garages. Will the "sports exhaust" become a thing of the past? Will all exhaust shop personnel have to be retrained by the Government as a result into other trades/industries?
Think about it. Am I being flippant? Who is going to get a 'sports exhaust' if all it means is unwarranted attention from the boys in blue?
Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 6:28 pm Post subject: Re: New Noise Laws Passed in NSW
infotechplus wrote:
[i]There will also be a ban on temporary noise reduction devices in car exhausts, that drivers use to avoid the attention of police.
If those butterfly valves become illegal, could even a stock 2J get done for its EGCV?
By definition, its a butterfly valve, and although not designed to control noise, it does have that effect.
Not to the same extent that those butterfly valves have, they are usually fitted in cars that only have a single cannon muffler at the back, in an extent to shut them up.
And some late model exotics (Ferrari & Lambo for example) have these fitted as standard - will we see brand new Fazza's copping yellow stickers?
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Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 7:56 pm Post subject:
Someone should try and hit em for discrimination against night-shift workers who must sleep with so much noise during the day!
Just cos politicians sleep at night! Hear hear, all night workers revolt! No noise heard past 8am I say! _________________
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Someone should try and hit em for discrimination against night-shift workers who must sleep with so much noise during the day!
Just cos politicians sleep at night! Hear hear, all night workers revolt! No noise heard past 8am I say!
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Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 10:20 am Post subject:
and i thought we had it bad over here, theyve just put a noise restriciton on your warrant of fitness requirement (6-12 monthly safety check on your vehicle) all cars have to be 92 DB or quiter throughout the rev range. and there was a big pisss take over here when the govt agencies did a test of over 1000 vehicles incl HSV's, Ferraris, etc... youd be surprised how many are 120db+ at high revs from factory.
So yeah, comes into effect this year, and will piss off alot of people. didnt mention anything about cops carrying db meters though, just like they dont carry tape measures to check ride heights (has to be 100mm min unless certified over here .. adjusties have to be certified regardless).
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Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 10:37 am Post subject:
asweetdude wrote:
and i thought we had it bad over here, theyve just put a noise restriciton on your warrant of fitness requirement (6-12 monthly safety check on your vehicle) all cars have to be 92 DB or quiter throughout the rev range. and there was a big pisss take over here when the govt agencies did a test of over 1000 vehicles incl HSV's, Ferraris, etc... youd be surprised how many are 120db+ at high revs from factory.
So yeah, comes into effect this year, and will piss off alot of people. didnt mention anything about cops carrying db meters though,just like they dont carry tape measures to check ride heights (has to be 100mm min unless certified over here .. adjusties have to be certified regardless).
Don't know about over there, but cops around here carry thses nifty little ride height checkers all the time.[/b] _________________
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Don't know about over there, but cops around here carry thses nifty little ride height checkers all the time.
In VIC, my g/f's car was defected by a cop who rolled their little hight checker under her car, while the car was parked, locked & unattended in my mechanics drive way.
i got a really good example,
my mate used to own a S14 series one, he got pulled over more even tho its stock
compared to me, when i was driving around in a honda accord with a bee can exhaust.
even the beemer is 7cm off the ground, its never been pulled over.
if the car looks like a sports car, you'll cop the suspicion trip.
2 doors, spoiler, tint windows so on and so forth.
so i guess it all comes down to the decentcie of the car, cops judge the cover of the book, so beware!
It is what makes aristo orsome, cops just think of it as a luxury car and dont care, so u high modifiers and people with shiny exhausts are ruining it for the rest of us lol naa fuck the police if i got done for everything they pulled me over for i would havn't have a licence all about how u talk to em the goverment is always contridicting itself because it is too stupid, scary stupid
thats crap my understanding is the police cant issue a work order unless the vehicle is at that point in time occupied??
I checked it out and apparantly because it was in the driveway that is considered part of the public roads and not private property.
What had happened is that the mechanic had been taking a loud GTR for a fang, the cops spotted it so he bolted, pulled up out the front then ran inside & locked the door. They defected both cars, they might have thought that our Silvia was our cruising.
But its bullshit. Imagine your panel beater wheeling out your crashed car into the driveway, and the cops pulling up and defecting it because it has no rear lights! Same thing
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lol naa fuck the police if i got done for everything they pulled me over for i would havn't have a licence all about how u talk to em 
the goverment is always contridicting itself because it is too stupid, scary stupid
