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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 9:48 pm    Post subject: New nitrogen canister Reply with quote

SO the annoying bird noise is driving me insane, have not had any lights on the dash yet but the noise started probably 2 months ago. Was wondering has anyone bought the new canister if so
where from
how much it cost
delivery time
results

I think these canisters could be retrofitted with a new valve quite easily and then filled but I am not sure the old seals would withstand the higher pressure and as such would leak again so I am not sure if it is worth mucking around with it hence looking at a new one
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 4:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Best price iirc is one of the NZ toyota branches at about $300nzd. Time frame to oz, not sure. But I think the bird noise isnt an empty canister but a leak in the BMC, so in that you should be after one of those. Someone was trying to reseal one but the thread stopped suddenly when he broke one of the parts and nothing new has been added since.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 8:11 am    Post subject: canister Reply with quote

hmm i have a spongy pedal as well so I assumed it was the canister. 300 isn't as bad as I was expecting
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can not get the canisters send via air mail so factor in extra shipping time when purchasing..
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mines spongy and Ive just done the canister 6 or so months back. will be looking at going vacuum assisted when it starts failing warrants
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

stott69 wrote:
Mines spongy and Ive just done the canister 6 or so months back. will be looking at going vacuum assisted when it starts failing warrants

hmm whats involved in changing it over, maybe I should look into this route. Don't want to change canisters for no gain. I will bleed the system again and see if that helps, can't see it stopping the noise though
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Na noise wont stop till you either change out the bmc or convert over. Think theres a couple of guys that have done it, try searching the build threads
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hey yer i was the one trying to rebuild a bmc i have got one sitting in my car i have just not put the engine back in my car to test it to make sure it is all sweet so hoping mid to late april and its pretty expensive the bmc seal kit if almost $300 alone but it can be done and its not tht difficult i will make a right up once i have tested my one
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 4:22 pm    Post subject: noise Reply with quote

hmm after listening closely i think it might be the bmc now you suggested it. Sounds liek it might be in the valve when the pedal is depressed, pedal is a little spongy but maybe the last shop didn't bleed the three BMC nipples. Am keen to see the write up and how you go with reconditioning/rebuilding yours where did you get the kit from?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 4:23 pm    Post subject: Re: noise Reply with quote

newbie wrote:
hmm after listening closely i think it might be the bmc now you suggested it. Sounds liek it might be in the valve when the pedal is depressed, pedal is a little spongy but maybe the last shop didn't bleed the three BMC nipples. Am keen to see the write up and how you go with reconditioning/rebuilding yours where did you get the kit from?


I would say the correct procedure for bleeding your brakes was not followed. A lot of shops would be unaware that there is 3 nipples that need to be bled.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just had a look and doesn't look like we have a Noobs guide to bleeding the brake system. Can anyone post one up? I've got to do mine next weekend when I put the Goodbridge brake lines in.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://planetsoarer.com/mediumbrakes/masterbleed.htm
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers mate
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bird noise is def the cannister chaps, It is hydraulic hammering that usually gets absorbed by the cannister, $300 is a steal, i have noticed that 100 series l/cruisers have the same system except a bigger cannister.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mooty wrote:
bird noise is def the cannister chaps, It is hydraulic hammering that usually gets absorbed by the cannister, $300 is a steal, i have noticed that 100 series l/cruisers have the same system except a bigger cannister.

Agreed ,just change it over and bleed and its done Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 8:06 am    Post subject: Re: noise Reply with quote

[quote="Chappo"]
newbie wrote:
hmm after listening closely i think it might be the bmc now you suggested it. Sounds liek it might be in the valve when the pedal is depressed, pedal is a little spongy but maybe the last shop didn't bleed the three BMC nipples. Am keen to see the write up and how you go with reconditioning/rebuilding yours where did you get the kit from?


I would say the correct procedure for bleeding your brakes was not followed. A lot of shops would be unaware that there is 3 nipples that need to be bled.[/quote
They should have don't as I told them specifically to bleed them
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 10:32 am    Post subject: Re: noise Reply with quote

newbie wrote:
They should have don't as I told them specifically to bleed them


Did you specifically give them the bleeding procedure or just verbally tell them to bleed the three nipples?

They wouldn't have even seen one of the nipples without removing one of the protective heat shields.
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